Filed under: Search Engines | Tags: bing, bing search, microhoo, microsoft, ppc, Search Engines, sem, yahoo
In order to help the interested better understand the new Yahoo! and Microsoft deal I am passing along an official letter from Yahoo themselves.
The following is a letter I received from my Yahoo rep this morning:
Hello,
With the announcement this morning of a deal between Yahoo! and Microsoft, I wanted to reach out so you would have the latest news on the deal and how it will affect your accounts short-term.
Essentially, we pretty much know same as you do from the recent press releases and articles online. You can read a little more about the deal at the URL below.
http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=399781
There was also a webcast this morning that you are welcome to listen to. To access the archive of this webcast, please use the URL below.
http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=71395
As you can imagine, a deal like this will take some time to take effect. Not only are there the questions of migrating systems, but the government still has to approve it. For right now, it is business as usual around here. As more details become available over the next few days, I’ll be sure to keep you updated.
Thanks!
Filed under: Search Engines | Tags: bing, bing search, live search, microsoft, microsoft live, microsoft search, msn, msn live
…And just like that Microsoft is back in the search game! Maybe. Bing, Microsoft’s new search engine due out Wednesday, launched on Saturday. Does anything not “drop” early these days?! While Google Killer it is not, Microsoft says it is not intended to be. I do think it offers a solid user experience though. This should make current users happy, but the question is then how many new users will be happy about Bing? Microsoft is planning to put a significant amount of money behind marketing Bing. The goal will not be to compete with Google, but to offer something unique to differentiate themselves in the search market. (a good strategy, and really all anyone can do at this point).
With that said, it will be interesting to see how they market Bing to consumers. They are calling it a decision engine instead of a search engine, and Ballmer thinks that ditching the MSN Live and Live Search brand names in favor of Bing will create a better connection with consumers. Time will always tell. If anything it should help to bolster a stale product, and give it a fresher look and some much needed media hype. With the new breed (facebook, twitter, etc.) stealing the spotlight, some media hype couldn’t hurt. At the very least, Bing should help to cement MSN firmly in its current third place ranking in the Big Three.

Bing search results page.
I’ve tried a bunch of searches already this morning and I like how it builds a search history for you in the left side nav under the related searches area (which is also a nice feature to help you refine your search). Also, as you scroll over the search results, an (ajax-like) window allows you to preview the page before you click on the result link.
Currently the home page works to merchandise a particular search theme, or discovery topic. One thing I didn’t see while searching on Bing were the Sponsored Links. Which makes me wonder how Microsoft plans to monetize the search traffic on Bing. I’m sure this is all part of the courtship and the ads will return soon enough. Launching and marketing a new product like Bing seems ambitious given the fact that Microsoft will need to get behind Microsoft 7 any day now. But the subject of how much money Microsoft has for marketing is another topic altogether.
Filed under: Search Engines | Tags: 2nd tier search engine, click fraud, click fraud settlement, content networks, miva, ppc, ppc management, sem
Unless you just haven’t been paying attention, you already know that there’s a fire burning in the 2nd Tier. These are the search firms that are outside the Big Three (Google, Yahoo, and MSN – who also syndicate search results) like Looksmart, Marchex, MIVA, Kontera, eZanga, etc. Yes, I’m talking about the knee-deep web, land of bots, spiders and Indian sweat shops. Second tier engines are more vertical, niche, and include things like local search sites. If you’re a publisher looking to optimize your page views, then chances are you’ve probably tried the 2nd Tier by now. Purchasing ad space on more than just Google makes good sense if:
- You need volume.
- You need low cost traffic.
- You have a CPM model in place.
Good deals can be secured on these low cost, high volume traffic providers but only for the proper business model. I’ve used this traffic to monetize a CPM model, and it works great. But at the end of the day, you are expecting that traffic to be legit, and so are your advertisers. But at $.01, .02, or even .03 per click, you know you are taking the good with the bad and if you don’t, well…you’re just naive. So for some it can be a necessary evil, with the power for good. And to some, it can be a lifeline to riches – dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
Here is an excepert from a former MIVA employee…
How do you think they fulfill large traffic volumes? Well, if you are willing to pay $.03 and someone else can create the traffic for $.01, everyone gets paid. To do this nefarious publishers and affiliates create bots that simulate real clicks, even performing actions once they land on your site so they appear to your analytics as human in nature. As you can imagine if you are a spammer sending bots out and they are clicking on Google AdSense, which is a popular revenue stream for many, then money is exchanging hands at an alarming rate. In other cases, there are reports of actual sweat shops where people are getting paid pennines to generate traffic by clicking on ads. And also, your competitor can be clicking on your ads in order to spend your money.But some do their jobs very well, causing “spikey” activity, like abnormal high CTR on things like Google AdSense or banner ads. On the surface everything looks copacetic, but an analysis of variance reveals the source. A best practice is to channelize your traffic, so you can isolate sketchy activity.
All of this is called click fraud, and we all know that your at risk of getting burned when you leave the Big Three. And the content networks just can’t say no to money (who can these days?). So they fill the requests, and then get busted. Like MIVA – which ignites the whole tier. MIVA’s $4MM click fraud settlement has sounded the alarms – We’ve got a full blown mess up here! (And this isn’t the first for them.) Now the engines will tell you that they are working to curb this type of activity, but the fact of the matter is they aren’t really. Any smart player knows that these types of content networks are in the business to provide traffic, any which way. If you spend significant money, you may not get the cold shoulder when you ask for a refund, but don’t count on it. And since the people who profit the most from the fire are the internet lawyers, every engine that doesn’t start with the letter G better start forming a bucket brigade right now, because fires spread really fast.


Filed under: Daily Ramble | Tags: google, google labs, google suggest, keyword list generation, keywords, ppc, sem
I just caught up on some reading and wanted to talk a bit about the new Google Suggest. You’ve probably all encountered this technology at some point on the web while doing a search. I’ve been using this for some time through the Firefox search box, but didn’t know the history behind it. As you type the first few letters of a search query, a drop down menu appears offering you suggestions based on your intent. This can be extremely helpful if your not sure on spelling, or if you are searching for something you’re really not sure about, like song lyrics or famous quotes. And for those of you looking for an edge in your keyword list generation, you can add this to your list of suggestion tools as well. After making its way through the Labs at Google, Google Suggest is now available on Google.com. I use iGoogle quite a bit and I don’t see that feature working there yet, other than showing you suggestions based on your search history. Another great feature about this, especially for SEM/PPC folks is that it couples those query suggestions with an approximate search volume for each.
Check out the Google Suggest feature next time you go to Google. Do you think this is useful for SEM purposes?
Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: 2nd tier search engine, adsense, big lebowski, click fraud, google adsense, incentivized clicks, incentivized traffic, lebowski, ppc, run of category, search engine marketing, sem
As of late, I have had a small love affair with getting large volumes of traffic from the 2nd and 3rd tier search engines. If you are getting the volume you need from the Big 3 (no, not the US, UK, and Russia), then typically these engines aren’t worth the time. But for certain revenue models they can be very handy. By purchasing traffic products, such as run-of-network, run-of-category, or run-of-vertical I was able to lift my AdSense revenue by close to 500% ! Well now I am a man-scorned.
Google AdSense has deemed a large portion of some of the traffic I have purchased as incentivized traffic. Incentivized traffic is when people are paid to visit a site. Typically you are purchasing traffic from someone who is also purchasing traffic from someone else. As with any business there are outlaws. Through no fault of the search engine, they are passing on incenitivized traffic to you.
Well, the Google Bot will find you and destroy you. Contractually, Google must protect people who are putting ads onto their contextual network and make sure that the clicks they pay for don’t come from bogus sources with no interest in their ads. According to Google, they aren’t taking MY money back and keeping it, they are returning it to the advertiser, so that includes Google’s cut as well.
Fine. Great. Grand!
Well, shouldn’t the person who sold me the traffic be responsible for this? I mean if I went out and bought a bicycle from a bike shop and then found out the bike was stolen, well I’d point the police in the direction of the bike shop. Same deal here. Only this is not what is happening because the incentivized traffic ends up on my site and leaves on an AdSense ad from my site. Also, AdSense has been monitoring this for some time. Hey Google, how about a heads up somewhere along the way! That’s like firing someone at 5pm on a Friday. At least let em go at 10am so they can catch a matinee or something, geez!
Well, the Dude abides and will swallow this tough pill, but this aggression will not stand, man! (dont you just love Lebowski quotes?!) Me too! You can’t beat Google though, so let’s just have a drink and try to forget about it.
White Russians all around!
Filed under: Interview | Tags: 501 (c) 3, 501 c3, acteva, auction, bay area, charity, common grants, eventbrite, google checkout, google grants, keiretsu, keiretsu forum, keiretsu forum north bay, marin, marin wine, marin wine auction, marin wines, non profit, nonprofit, north bay, online marketing, paypal, ppc, search engine marketing, sem, wine auction, www.eldr.com
I decided to try my hand at interviewing…(let me know what you think). A friend of mine recently went into business for herself and her most recent project is working for a non-profit here in the Bay Area. I recently met with Elizabeth May, of eMay Services, to learn a bit more about non profits and online marketing.
NorCal SEM: Hi Liz, thanks for taking the time to speak with me.
Elizabeth: Thanks Clay for speaking with me.
NorCal SEM: I remember a year or so ago you told me you wanted to work for yourself, and last time we spoke things were picking up for you.
Elizabeth: Yes, a year ago at this time, I signed on my first independent contractor position with a start up called www.eldr.com. It was so enriching to use my background in online marketing to really help a new company get some traffic and measure their results. In fact, I kept talking about the online marketing visions I had for consumers and companies, and as a result, people in my network consistently referred more business my way. Clearly it was my passion for matching online consumers to what they were looking for through keyword centric paid traffic that allowed others to identify me in the industry as a good resource for search engine marketing in particular and online marketing in general. Eventually, after taking on a few more clients I had enough business to quit my full time job and work officially as a self-employed person. Working for myself has been truly rewarded and equally challenging.
NorCal SEM: I understand you’re currently working with a local non-profit; who are they?
Elizabeth: The local non-profit I’m working for and that I am chairing is the Marin Wine Auction hosted by Keiretsu Forum Charitable Foundation, the charitable arm of Keiretsu Forum, the largest angel investor network. Keiretsu Forum focuses on bringing angel investors together to invest in early stage companies in the high tech and consumer goods industries. I love that one of the four tenants of membership is PHILANTHROPY! In the past, the major annual philanthropic event has been a golf auction, and this year, to celebrate the launch of Keiretsu Forum’s North Bay chapter, we decided to showcase the Marin wine industry, who will be pouring together for the first time ever at our event, and help some wonderful North Bay 501 (c) 3 organizations. Complete list of beneficiaries and participating wineries at our website.
NorCal SEM: That sounds really fun, but also like a lot of work. How have you incorporated SEM into your marketing efforts for the auction, or I guess, more importantly, what is your overall online marketing strategy for raising awareness for this event?
Elizabeth: It is a lot of fun! The event will raise about $250,000 for local charities which makes me feel really good…so…I’m plugging for everyone who can to buy tickets to do so and make the Marin Wine Auction part of your 2008 giving plans…ok, no more shameless plugging. SEM for non-profits is difficult, but easier than for profit companies. There are plenty of companies that are willing to help.
Nonprofit organizations and events can benefit from using savings discounts on the following helpful sites:
- eventbrite.com
- acteva.com
- paypal.com
- google.checkout (NO FEES for transactions)
- google.com/grants – a wonderful program that allows nonprofits to use AdWords with grant money instead of cash/credit
- The list is endless.
My marketing strategy for Marin Wine Auction was to build the site, include all of our information, include my contact information, make site navigation simple, and post our news. I like to write interested news and blogs in the local & wine communities to see who will write an article about our event or better yet, post our event flyer. A few best practices:
- Get to the Point: Polite, brief, and informative communication is key to win links to your site.
- Start a database: Keep good records to track how many people you’ve asked, and how many people have accepted to link to you or write an article about your site or event. This database will assist you with all future communications (creating your own PR listserv effectively), but it will also help you track conversion ratios.
- Make data-driven decisions: Use this conversion ratio to test different language in Press Releases or conversations in emails to improve your results.
This experience has taught me that there are countless online marketing resources available to nonprofits. There is the opportunity to create strong partnerships between nonprofits and online marketers. What is great about online marketing is its transparency of results. Tracking results means that performance and efficiency can improve for profit in the case of regular businesses, for increased funds in the case of nonprofit businesses.
NorCal SEM: It sounds as if you have it down…
Elizabeth: I wish I could say that I am a pioneer in the “online marketing for nonprofits” space, but the idea is neither new nor unique. One of the best sites on the internet for nonprofits is Common Grants. Common Grants seeks to use the “common application for college admissions” process and apply it to simplify the grant application process for nonprofits. Effectively setting up nonprofits to find, win, and increase funding and eliminate the painstaking time and energy that goes into each new grant application.
NorCal SEM: Thanks for all the great information. I know I’ve learned a lot. Keep me posted, I’d love to hear how the event goes. BTW, can I get some free tickets? ;o)
eMay Services clients:
http://www.marinwineauction.com
Filed under: Daily Ramble | Tags: bay area marketing, efficient frontier, estorm, networking, online marketing, sports basement
I attended the Online Marketers Summer Fest in San Francisco last week. It was a really nice event held at Sports Basement in Potrero Hill. The party was hosted by eStorm and Efficient Frontier to celebrate a new partnership between the two companies, one in which the companies will be working together synergistically on projects. It will be interesting to follow this relationship. I spent most of the night talking with eStorm Founder, Nancy Riveong and Beer Mistress Extroidinaire Lisa McGuire who worked the Fat Tire (if I remember correctly, yum!) tap all night. I met stop motion animation experts, local consultants, and young entrepreneurs; all great people. And of course, collected some business cards and made some new connects on LinkedIn.
The venue was a nice idea as well. I must say I had never thought of this type of event, although looking back I’m sure this type of marketing mixer is probably not that un-common. Both companies sponsored the party and set up food and libations in one portion of the store (Sports Basement is a large sporting goods store, not a bar) and upon signing in you were given a 15% off coupon to use during your stay in the store. Plus they had a decent dj spinning off to the side. It worked great. They probably should have positioned the food in a little better spot, it was cramped. I mean, having to reach over a huge pile of official Sports Basement trucker caps, and across a table, just to snag a chocolate chip cookie because there are 14 people in front of the food is annoying. But hey, that’s just me…I’m a big guy and I like my chocolate chip cookies to be close.
The venue did encourage a lot of shopping from a lot of the attendees. Also, the theme of the party was Summer Fest and the tie in was to do a meet-n-greet and get ready for a safe summer and happy summer. I bought a hat, but not the official Sports Basement trucker hat ;o). I met several interesting people that were very active in the local online marketing space. One thing that was interesting, was that the casual (and retail) environment lent itself to more casual discussion rather than a bunch of Bus. Dev talk. Don’t get me wrong, I like to talk shop, and will do so with passion. But every once in a while it’s nice to just relax, drink a Fat Tire, and get to know people. I think a good time was had by all. Looking forward to the next one guys!
Filed under: Marchex, Search Engines | Tags: adcenter, Marchex, marchex adhere, marchex enhance, pageviews, panama, qualified traffic, search engine land

Looks like Marchex is doing some big things these days. I noticed this story about them over at Search Engine Land last week. Can’t wait for their launch party on Tuesday. Free booze, free food and networking potential. My girl, Kyla will not be making the trip down from Seattle for the party, but I’ll catch up with her during the next shindig at Moscone Center.
They have a new name, a new look, and a new traffic partner mix…so fresh and so clean! I like the new blue color of the UI instead of the old orange Enhance look. There are a few new features here as well, but it’s pretty much the same. And your old accounts are still there. Gone is Enhance and in is Marchex’s AdHere. They boast a premium line of content sites in their network. One things for sure, they are definitely planting themselves firmly in the second-tier of search engines/traffic sources. I work with Marchex’s Enhance…err…AdHere advertising platform a lot, and I’m usually pretty satisfied with the traffic that I get from them.
Their UI is easy enough and surprisingly self explanatory. And while Google it is not, it’s still pretty easy to navigate, start campaigns, change bids, and all that other good stuff. You know…the basic stuff that SHOULD be easy to do (insert derogatory comment about MSN adcenter or Yahoo Panama here) Plus, your ads are launched right away, and there’s no annoying review process (insert another derogatory comment about Panama). It does take a little time to get your terms popping on the network, so be patient at first. My advice, is – was – and always will be, if you are spending significant dough then get yourself an account manager to help you optimize. Track the referring sites that send traffic to your domain and then adjust accordingly based on your conversion metrics.
For the most part, their traffic usually does what I need it to do, which is pageviews per visit. There’s not much need in going granular here, although you can, and I have. But I usually get the results I need by running the same amount of keywords that I would run in a couple of different groups, and running them in the just one group. The key here is to write a good ad that will convert nicely regardless of the slight differences in your keyword bucket. Your not running multiple ads in an adgroup with Marchex, so this is easier to justify. Belive me, I’m a big, big fan of granular, but like I said, this isn’t Google. Plus I just find that you get more traffic, faster, this way. Also, it saves you time on PPC management; build out time is shorter, ads go up fairly quick, large keyword groups allow more high level mass cpc bid changes, etc.
I’m currently using Enhance/Marchex to drive traffic to a large publisher site where the only conversion is a pageview (PV), with mostly a CPM ad model. We do a decent amount of CPC as well, with AdSense, and the traffic works good with that as well. Naturally in the CPM rev model you want as many pageviews as you can get per visit (PVPV).
For the most part these guys will send traffic that turns at least a couple pages with a reasonable bounce rate for a second-tier traffic source, which tells me that these ads are getting at least some amount of exposure with a fairly qualified audience. Their traffic partners are many and they list Yahoo as one of them. Well Yahoo certainly has a lot of traffic (relatively, of course), but to be honest I get better results from Marchex than when I buy direct from Yahoo. (insert derogatory comment about Yahoo’s ability to keep up in search)
Have you used Marchex yet? Check em’ out. If you have, see you at the party!







